Scholz’s comment reportedly came during a discussion about the CDU’s decision to pass migration-related measures in parliament with votes from the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, a development that has dominated the election debate and which Scholz has also sharply criticized in public.
Arguing the CDU alignment with the AfD broke a major taboo in German politics, Scholz was cited as saying it was evidence the CDU was sliding further toward fascism. Chialo challenged him, asking whether he really believed the CDU was a racist party when he sits in the party’s leadership.
“Every party has its court jester,” Scholz was quoted as replying.
In response to the Focus report, Scholz defended the word he used: Hofnarr.
“The term I used here does not have racist connotations in everyday language. The accusation of racism raised is absurd and artificially constructed,” he said. “Personally, I value Joe Chialo as an important liberal voice in the Union.”
But members of Chialo’s CDU and other parties insisted the exchange was racist.
